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Montana Coalition Of Health Care Pros To Oppose The obamacare Schemes…….


[TWG Note: This issue is going to be of monumental importance during Montana’s 2013 Legislative session.  Montanans need to rally together and show their opposition to this abhorrent obamacare scheme.

There’s millions of reasons why we do NOT want this socialized system. To quote Winston Churchill; “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.” Sometimes the advocates of socialized medicine claim that health care is too important to be left to the market. That’s why some politicians are calling for us to adopt health care systems such as those in Canada, the United Kingdom and other European nations. But the suggestion that we’d be better served with more government control doesn’t even pass a simple smell test.

Do we want the government employees who run the troubled Walter Reed Army Medical Center to be in charge of our entire health care system? Or, would you like the people who deliver our mail to also deliver health care services? How would you like the people who run the motor vehicles department, the government education system, Amtrak, foreign intelligence and other government agencies to also run our health care system?

Before we buy into single-payer health care systems like Canada’s and the United Kingdom’s, we might want to do a bit of research. The Vancouver, British Columbia-based Fraser Institute annually publishes “Waiting Your Turn.” Its 2006 edition gives waiting times, by treatments, from a person’s referral by a general practitioner to treatment by a specialist. The shortest waiting time was for oncology (4.9 weeks). The longest waiting time was for orthopedic surgery (40.3 weeks), followed by plastic surgery (35.4 weeks) and neurosurgery (31.7 weeks).

As reported in the June 28 National Center for Policy Analysis’ “Daily Policy Digest,” Britain’s Department of Health recently acknowledged that one in eight patients waits more than a year for surgery. France’s failed health care system resulted in the deaths of over 13,000 people, mostly of dehydration, during the heat spell of 2003. Hospitals stopped answering the phones, and ambulance attendants told people to fend for themselves.

We do, after all, know the history of what happens when countries replace a free market in health care with a government run insurer. Private insurers cannot afford to continue and drop out of the business. Employers throw employees on the public system. There is a two-tiered medical system. Rich people and government employees get top-notch care. Everybody else goes to the public Clinic. Doctors quit the profession. They emigrate if they can. Doctors who stay in business cut their hours drastically. Pharmaceutical companies do not do any research on new drugs. Even if they did, it wouldn’t help because government bureaucrats do not approve payments for new drugs to treat anything.

Government rations health care, and decides whether people are allowed to receive treatment or will just be given painkillers while they die, or perhaps are directed to an assisted suicide center. Death is cheaper than living, after all, to unaccountable government bureaucrats. At least, as long as it’s your death we’re talking about instead of theirs. The cost of health insurance doubles when it is collected through the tax system, approximately, and government health insurance service in comparison makes the DMV look like the service desks at Wal-Mart, where you can return anything that any Wal-Mart sells even without a price tag on it, let alone a receipt. That is the height of luxury compared to the Kafkaesque nightmare suffered by those in the bowels of the government run health care system.

How about those glassy eyed “progressive” Dim ideologues stop destroying the economy before we let them have a whack at health care with their unworkable, many times failed socialist schemes?

When will people wake up and see where socialism and government healthcare will take us?? It’s a terrible system and we MUST not let Obama and his regime do this to our country!!! We need to fight this big time or one day we will be standing in lines to see a limited number of doctors, put on waiting lists for surgery, limited in what medicines we can take based on cost, allowed to die because they have to ration care, and the quality of care will be awful.

We MUST REPEAL the government takeover of healthcare that disregarded the will of the people, and then REPLACE it with genuine reforms that give control to patients and doctors, rather than bureaucrats; honor our traditions of freedom of choice and privacy; make medical care, and the practice of medicine, affordable; promote a system in which good and timely care is available to all our citizens; and encourage continued innovation and investment in the development of new medical treatments.]

AFP announces coalition of health care pros to oppose Obamacare <!––>By Phil Drake on July 30, 2012

By PHIL DRAKE | Montana Watchdog

HELENA – An organization that promotes limited government joined with a group of doctors on Monday and announced a coalition to oppose the oncoming Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, saying it would be costly and not deliver on promises.
Americans for Prosperity and the Montana Medical Free Choice Coalition held a news conference on the steps of the state capitol in Helena, with what organizers said was attended by about 30 people. A few signs, such as “Obamacare … Just say no” and “Give us Liberty, not mandated health care!” peppered the area.
According to a news release, the MMFCC opposes government-run health care, the president’s health care law, commonly called “Obamacare,” and supports “market-based and patient-centered reform.”
Joe Balyeat, the state director for AFP and former state lawmaker, said Obamacare would create “a whole new class of serfs in Montana.”
“People with incomes all the way up to $92,200 will have a portion of their insurance paid by the feds,” he said, adding it would put the majority the state’s residents on “the government dole.”
He that in 2010, Medicaid cost taxpayers $400 billion and provided insurance to 54 million. He said 17 million Americans would be added to Medicaid because of Obamacare and by 2020, Medicaid will cover 85 million Americans at a cost of $870 billion annually. He also quoted studies that said surgical patients on Medicaid are 13 percent more likely to die than uninsured patients and 97 percent more likely to die than privately-insured patients.
The coalition, which Balyeat said is comprised so far of about a dozen doctors and members of the health care field, will begin offering opinion pieces to newspapers and speaking out against Obamacare.
Annie Bukacek, an internist who said she would come up with a way to not participate in Obamacare, said the law would “dramatically slash the quality of patient care, especially those who need it most.”
“Government-run health care won’t take care of you,” she said. “The ones that need it the most are left by the wayside.”
Jean Branscum, executive vice president of the Montana Medical Association, which represents 2,200 physicians in the state, said her organization has not taken a political position on Obamacare.
She said they are, however, educating physicians about what they will have to do to comply with laws and how the laws will impact them.

Last week, the Congressional Budget Office came out with a report that the health care overhaul would provide health insurance to about 3 million more low-income Americans. It also said the cost of expanding coverage will be $1.68 trillion.
Obamacare requires people to buy health insurance by 2014 or pay a penalty.
It was upheld on June 28, by the U.S. Supreme Court on a 5-4 vote. The court ruled the individual mandate to buy health insurance was a legitimate exercise of Congressional taxing authority. The court also made it optional for states to participate in the expansion of Medicaid.
According to information posted by the Montana Policy Institute, a Bozeman-based think tank and publisher of Montana Watchdog, depending on participation rate assumptions, by 2019 Obamacare’s impact on Montana will be seen in additional Medicaid enrollment increases in the range of 57,000 to 79,000, with an additional cost burden for the state budget ranging from $100 million to $155 million.
While the individual mandate drew most of the attention in the Supreme Court debate, the biggest issue for state governments is the expansion of Medicaid coverage, which is now mandated for everyone up to 133 percent of the poverty line.

Medicaid until now has been for poor families with children, pregnant women, the blind, the elderly, and a few other groups. The new law would cover every person with income below the established level.
The Court found that Congress cannot strip current Medicaid funding from states that refuse to go along with federal expansion of the program.
While the federal government is covering some of the initial costs, the burden over the long run falls to the states.
In March 2010, Montana Attorney General Steve Bullock, now the Democratic candidate for governor, refused to join 26 states in opposing Obamacare, saying their lawsuit lacked merit.
In February, 71 Montana GOP lawmakers and organizations became part of a “friend of the court” brief filed by the Cato Institute that urges the U.S. Supreme Court to affirm the 11th Circuit Court ruling that the law passed in 2010 exceeds Congress’ power to regulate interstate commerce. The 11th Circuit Court ruling was appealed by the White House.
The health reform law also mandates creation of state-based health exchanges, but again gives states the decision to opt out. Exchanges are online health insurance markets designed to streamline coverage purchasing.
In Montana, lawmakers rejected two attempts to set up the exchanges, thereby setting the stage for the exchanges to be operated by the federal government.

  1. the unit
    August 1, 2012 at 09:01

    Good commentary on the problem. A short comment is all I can do.

    Government taking if by an individual would be robbery, a crime. Government robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn’t even discribe the atrocity full well. It is also identity theft by borrowing on your stolen credit and that of generations to (maybe) come.

    Government giving to pay Paul…just means Paul gets the shaft as well.

  2. the unit
    August 1, 2012 at 09:25

    Pfiffer’s apology to Kraut…to me sums it up on all fronts…a bunch of lie and a bit of truth.
    “there was no intention to deceive. I clearly overshot the runway in my post.” Truth comes in always…costs always over shoot the runway in all programs. Still robbery and all including Paul gets shafted. Deception always the intention. And I ani’t picking parties.

  3. Ewin Timms
    August 2, 2012 at 07:35

    Looks like you watch too much FOX cable news. They just make stuff up. Oh yeah, you wouldn’t know that.

    • August 2, 2012 at 09:40

      Wrong, as usual, you stupid shitstain. Now go on back to your limp-wristed circle jerk and pound a gallon of boiling sand up your manhole.

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