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obama’s “Gun Violence” Task Force Holds First Meeting

December 20, 2012 4 comments

TWG: Oh, this is rich.  Those bureaucrats squatting on thrones at obama’s “Gun Violence Task Force” include ERIC HOLDER….. The radical extremist who supported trafficking of thousands of high powered weapons into the hands of Mexican drug cartels and islamic terrorists, who refused to act on violence and felonious activities committed by the violent terrorist group, Black Panthers, and who, as a radical extremist college student, participated in an ARMED TAKEOVER of offices at Columbia University.   Yeah, THAT eric holder.  Then we have Janey Napolitano….. Who designates American Veterans, TEA Partiers and Libertarian Ron Paul supporters  as “Domestic Terrorists”, as she went about purchasing BILLIONS of rounds of ammunition, now hidden away and UNACCOUNTED FOR.  This ought to be an interesting “task force”. Can’t wait to see what they vomit out for the American People to swallow. Let’s not forget Worthless slap-happy lying liar, Joe Biden.  “Banning guns is an idea who’s time has come.” ~Joe Biden   If they even TRY to introduce another “Assault Weapons Ban” they’re going to prove themselves even more idiotic than we know them to be today.  The first was was an utter FAILURE, which is why it was allowed to shrivel up and go away. Oh, and here’s a news flash to those IDIOTS.  It’s not “Gun Violence” just as it’s not “Swimming pool violence”, “Vehicle violence”, “Doctor violence” and “Small plastic toy violence”.  

Vice President Joe Biden (center) with members of gun violence task force meet at White House Dec. 20, 2012

US Gun Violence Task Force Holds First Meeting

By Dan Robinson

December 20, 2012

WHITE HOUSE — A gun violence task force, created by President Barack Obama and headed by Vice President Joe Biden, held its first meeting Thursday to begin to seek solutions to gun violence in the wake of the massacre of children and adults at an elementary school in Connecticut.Biden’s job is to guide the group of Cabinet officials and government agency chiefs as they consult with city and state officials and others to come up with ideas, and draw up recommendations for Congress.

Thursday’s meeting included state law enforcement officials.  Also present — Attorney General Eric Holder, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius.

Obama has said the many complexities of the gun violence problem in America — including mental health, education and the constitutional right to bear arms — must not prevent action.

Opening the meeting, Biden reiterated Mr. Obama’s determination in the wake of the school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut that left 20 children and six adults dead.

“The president is absolutely committed to keeping his promise that we will act, and we will act in a way that is designed, even as he says, if we can only save one life, we have to take action,” Biden said.

President Obama says he will act without delay on task force recommendations, and ensure that proposals are sent to Capitol Hill and acted upon by Congress “in a timely manner.”

The Connecticut shootings created an unprecedented level of national debate, and seemingly momentum for some sort of action.  But the attention of Congress next year still will be on difficult fiscal issues.

During a news conference focusing on the apparent impasse with President Obama over a fiscal deal, House of Representatives Speaker Republican John Boehner would not commit to taking up gun control legislation.

“He has appointed Vice President Biden to lead a commission; when the vice president’s recommendations come forward we will certainly take them into consideration.  But at this point I think our hearts and souls ought to be, to think about those victims in this horrible tragedy,” Boehner said.

At the White House, reporters tried to obtain a clearer picture of how the president will pursue his gun violence action agenda.

Besides congressional action, which may be difficult to achieve in the face of the powerful gun lobby groups, Obama has the option of issuing executive orders to move the process forward.

Press secretary Jay Carney had this response when asked about this avenue for action.

“There are the specific things already that the president has called on Congress to do, and will continue to call on Congress to do.  There will be other efforts that will require congressional action I suspect, but as we said from the beginning it does not begin and end with congressional action.  There are numerous other things that we need to do as a nation and that we in Washington can do,” Carney said.

In remarks Wednesday, President Obama said a majority of Americans support banning the sale of military-style assault weapons, and high capacity ammunition clips, and support laws that would require background checks before all gun purchases.

Sandy Hook Mass Murder: The Argument About “Gun Free Zones” and “Gun Control”

December 15, 2012 9 comments

Yesterday in Sandy Hook, CT,  before the dead bodies had cooled, the marxist hollywood jesters and politicians were out in force, screaming about “gun control”.   We knew the glassy eyeds would politicize this tragedy, but I didn’t think they’d be so vitriolic within MINUTES of the event. Simultaneous to the tragedy unfolding.  Despicable.

Turns out, this kid Adam Lanzo had mental issues. He was also an avid VIDEO GAMER.  As breaking news flashed across the television screen, I knew that somehow video games would come into the picture.  But I digress…..

And now, the hollywood jesters and glassy eyed leftists are screaming for more “gun control”,  you know, because it works so well in the GUN FREE ZONES where these mass murdering little demons like to play.  Schools, shopping malls, universities.  Instead of whining about forcing the government to steal our INALIENABLE Second Amendment rights, they ought to be demanding we abolish those so-called “gun free zones”, which are doing nothing but creating target rich environments for the mentally disturbed mass murderers.  These “Gun free zones” are killing our children.  BAN THEM.

FBI statistics prove that mass murderers purposefully choose “gun free zones” to commit their crimes, because they know there will be nobody shooting back at them.  Mass murderers, especially those that target little children in schools, are COWARDS.  They’re not going to choose an armed group of people to commit their heinous crimes. They choose defenseless children and citizens in shopping malls, today’s “gun free zones”.   How many of these mass murderers would choose, say, a gun show exhibit or a target range to commit their heinous crimes?

The belief that these “gun free zones” will prevent crime relies upon flawed reasoning, namely the belief that criminals will be deterred by these new “gun free zone” laws, even know they are not deterred by longstanding laws against murder, armed robbery, etc.

A person who is willing to commit a serious crime like murder or armed robbery, or a person who is planning to kill themselves, will not even give a second thought the penalty for carrying a gun. They know that if they are caught, the gun possession charge will be the least of their worries, or they are too mentally disturbed to think rationally about and care about the penalties.

In short, criminals ignore gun control laws.
On the other hand, the law abiding students, teachers, and shoppers who were unable to defend themselves had a lot to live for, and didn’t want to risk their freedom and futures by facing a gun possession charge. A teacher who unlawfully carried a gun in self defense could lose their job, and face jail time. A college student who illegally carried a gun for self defense could be expelled and face bleak career prospects, in addition to the specter of a prison sentence. A mall shopper who unlawfully carried a gun would face similar prospects. This shows that the gun free zones only disarm the law abiding citizens who we don’t need to fear, and won’t deter the killers.

Criminals disobey laws

Criminals don’t abide by the laws of our society. Instead, they violate the laws for their own personal gain. It is this very fact that makes them criminals. This should be obvious.

A criminal who disobeys the law against murder, which is arguably the most strictly enforced law in our society, is not going to think twice about ignoring a gun ban law.

Some people will then argue that by banning guns all together, we will somehow keep the guns out of the hands of criminals, preventing them from having the guns at all. This reasoning is faulty. Criminals manage to smuggle in millions upon millions of pounds of illegal drugs, and thousands upon thousands of illegal immigrants each year. They can (and do) smuggle in guns right along with the drugs and illegal immigrants. There are also hundreds of millions of guns in the country already. Finally, criminals can and do make guns, since it is not that difficult to make a gun that will work for their purposes. These home made guns (called “zip guns”) may not equal the quality of a fine Springfield 1911 or XD, but they will still kill, as will criminals without guns.

Gun possession charges don’t scare criminals

That same criminal who is willing to face the severe penalties for murder and other felonies is not going to be deterred by a misdemeanor or petty offense gun possession charge.  What criminal would be willing to risk life in prison for murder, but is afraid of a misdemeanor gun charge? Even laws with harsher penalties for gun possession won’t deter criminals, since the crime they are committing while using the gun (such as murder, rape, robbery, carjacking, etc) will all have higher penalties already.

Law abiding citizens obey gun control laws and are left vulnerable as a result

The people who will obey the gun bans are the law abiding citizens, who wouldn’t commit crimes in the first place. Such people are the students at universities, the shoppers at malls, and the other good people in society who die in “gun free zones“. They obey the gun bans because they believe in laws, and because they don’t want a criminal conviction on their record. The problem is that these are the very people who we would want to have guns, since they could help stop criminals and otherwise protected themselves and the rest of society.

ABOLISH THESE “GUN FREE ZONES” AND STOP MAKING OUR CHILDREN AND INNOCENT CITIZENS DEFENSELESS TARGETS

 

Perhaps looking at a few high profile shootings will better illustrate the point.

1. The Columbine High School Massacre
The Columbine High School massacre occurred on Tuesday, April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School in Columbine in unincorporated Jefferson County, Colorado, near Denver and Littleton. Two students, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, embarked on a shooting rampage, killing 12 students and a teacher, as well as wounding 23 others, before committing suicide. The killers unlawfully brought guns into their high school, and proceeded to unlawfully kill innocent people, before unlawfully killing themselves. Guns were not allowed in the school, and neither was murder, yet law did not deter these people who were bent on committing murder then suicide. Perhaps if the teachers had been given the option to voluntarily receive training and a concealed handgun to defend themselves and their students, this tragedy could have been averted or at least lessened.

2. The Westroads Mall Shooting
The Westroads Mall shooting was a murder-suicide that occurred on December 5, 2007, at the Von Maur department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, Nebraska, United States. Nineteen-year-old Robert A. Hawkins killed nine people (including himself) and wounded four, two of them critically. The mall was a “gun free” zone as well, meaning that law abiding citizens were not allowed to carry a gun for self defense. The killer who was bent on murdering as many people as he could, before committing suicide, wasn’t deterred by the laws against murder, nor was he deterred by the sign in front of the mall which stated guns were not allowed.

3. The Virginia Tech Massacre
The Virginia Tech massacre was a school shooting which occurred on April 16th, 2007, at the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech) in Blacksburg, Virginia. The perpetrator, Seung-Hui Cho, killed 32 people and wounded many more before committing suicide. Virginia tech was a “gun free zone”, which meant the students and professors were forbidden to carry concealed handguns for their own protection. This didn’t deter the gunman, who just wanted to kill his fellow students before taking his own life. Again, a person who wants to die wasn’t deterred by the prospect of jail time for having a gun in the “gun free zone”, or even the possibility of being executed for committing murder.

4. The Northern Illinois University Shooting
The Northern Illinois University shooting was an incident that took place on February 14, 2008, during which a gunman shot multiple people on the campus of Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, before committing suicide. Five of his victims were killed, eighteen were wounded. NIU’s campus was a gun free zone as well, and indeed the entire state of Illinois prohibits concealed carry. Once more we see that a gunman bent on murder and suicide didn’t follow the rules of the “gun free zone”, but his victims did follow the rules and were left defenseless.

5. The Lane Bryant Shooting
The Lane Bryant shooting was an incident of mass murder and armed robbery at a Lane Bryant clothing outlet in the Brookside Marketplace in the Chicago suburb of Tinley Park, Illinois, that occurred on February 2, 2008. The shooting resulted in five fatalities, and the injury of another. The killer used his gun to subdue 6 women, before binding and killing them. The gunman escaped and is still at large, despite the fact that an armed police officer was just a couple thousand feet away. Being in the state of Illinois, concealed carry is illegal, so all 6 of the women were defenseless. The gunman, who was willing to risk the death penalty or life in prison for murder, kidnapping, and armed robbery, wasn’t deterred by the law against carrying a concealed handgun. The victims, being law abiding people, followed the law and were left defenseless.

6. The Fort Hood Shootings
A murderer who ignored the Army’s strict rules against carrying a loaded gun on a military base killed 13 soldiers and wounded dozens more.  The victims, who abided by the Army’s gun control rules, were defenseless.  The deadly shooting spree was only stopped when a civilian police officer arrived and shot the gunman.

7. The Mercaz HaRav Massacre
A lone gunman shot multiple students at the Mercaz HaRav yeshiva, a religious school in Jerusalem, Israel. Eight students and the shooter were killed and ten more were wounded, five of them in serious to critical condition. The attack began at 8:36 p.m. local time and ended about twenty minutes later. The attacker was not stopped by the police, but rather by a student, Yitzhak Dadon, whom saved the lives of countless students by lawfully shooting the attacker with his personal firearm. This is a clear example of a student who was permitted by law to carry a concealed handgun, and who used this handgun to stop the criminal and save lives. One can only wonder how many lives at Columbine, Virginia Tech, Lane Bryant, Northern Illinois University, and the Westroads mall could have been saved if the law abiding victims and bystanders had been allowed to carry a gun for self defense.

 

 

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